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 Post subject: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:25 am 
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As promised, I would share a sound clip of my Trtiwatt which I built about a year ago.
I took longer than expected since I had to sound proof my room for my neighbours and I did not yet have the right recording equipment.
Anyway, now I have!

I recorded the solo of Mother by Pink Floyd.
Below the settings:
Linked input
Normal channel: 1:00
Bright channel: 11:30
Bass:12:00
Middle: 2:00
Treble: 10:30
Presence: 2:00
Master volume: as desired, mine's at 9:30 (that's loud enough! :lol:)

Signal chain:
Fender strat with SSL-2/SSL-2/SSL-6 configuration. Used the SSL-6 in this clip.
into > Buffalo FX Ram's head > Buffalo FX Power Booster > Vintage Dluxe Electric Mistress ( set about 50% in loop using a Lehle Parallel mixer) > Boss RT-20 (realy mildly, don't overdo this one)> The beautiful Triwatt.
Delay and reverb was added in the mix to keep things clean.
Used a Sennheiser E906 off-axis with the presence toggle set to flat.

The speaker that I use is a Reeves Vintage purple. Highly recommended! I have swapped out around a dozen speakers and this one is definetly it imho.
I find that the Triwatt (and Hiwatt amps in general) are very picky about speaker choice.
You can just contact Reeves through e-mail. They do ship them separately. Delivery was insanely fast. USA -> Netherlands just took a single weekend (shipped friday, got it on monday).

Let me know what you guys think of it!
And for those who do not (yet) own a Triwatt. Go build one or get one prebuild. It is really as great as they say it is!

More clips comming if desired. I am re-recording the whole "The Wall" album doing guitars and vocals myself.

Feel free to share your clips as well. I am very curious to know what sound you guys get out of this beast.

Cheers!


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:44 am 
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Gertjan2411 wrote:
I recorded the solo of Mother by Pink Floyd.


:shock: Nailed it! :shock:

Seriously, that sounds fantastic!


Gertjan2411 wrote:
The speaker that I use is a Reeves Vintage purple. Highly recommended! I have swapped out around a dozen speakers and this one is definetly it imho.
I find that the Triwatt (and Hiwatt amps in general) are very picky about speaker choice.
You can just contact Reeves through e-mail. They do ship them separately. Delivery was insanely fast. USA -> Netherlands just took a single weekend (shipped friday, got it on monday).


That's the same speaker I put in my Triwatt 1x12 combo. I didn't really do any comparisons or testing, just went straight to that one. No complaints, and even better to see an endorsement from someone who's done a lot of speaker comparisons.


Gertjan2411 wrote:
Let me know what you guys think of it!


I think that clip sounds fantastic!


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And for those who do not (yet) own a Triwatt. Go build one or get one prebuild. It is really as great as they say it is!


I own one, but I was keeping it at my buddy's house (band rehearsal space), and now that we're all self-isolating, I can't play my Triwatt!


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More clips comming if desired. I am re-recording the whole "The Wall" album doing guitars and vocals myself.


I would definitely be interested in hearing that. For many years now, I've had on my bucket list forming a mini-tribute band just to be able to perform The Wall in its entirety. My wife's response to that goal: "please don't make me sit through that." :roll:


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Feel free to share your clips as well. I am very curious to know what sound you guys get out of this beast.


Kind of hard to follow that. :)

Not to derail your thread, but I'm a little curious about your recording setup.

Thanks for posting, that was a pleasure to listen to!


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:32 am 
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Hi Matt,

Thank you for your kind words!
It is pretty hard to find musicians in my neighborhood. Guys from my age (26) are usually not into musical instruments.
And then I have got find those who are hardcore Pink Floyd fans like me haha. Nearly impossible... That is why I opted to re-record the album doing guitars and vocals myself.

Regarding the self-isolating project. Send me a DM if you need some advice. My project has turned out quite well tbh. My neighbors stopped complaining, so mission accomplished!

My recording gear is not that sophisticated.
I am using the Sennheisser E906 into an Audient ID14 going into my computer (Acer Aspire i7)
My DAW is Cubase Elements 10.5 in which I do the mixing (compression, EQ, delay, reverb).
I learned that recording without delay and reverb is best since that prevents overflowing the track.
You can always add those later with some plugins. It is hard to spot the difference between plugin and real stompbox delays in a mix.
I use a pair of Adam A7X monitors and the Sennheisser HD6 Mix headphones for mixing.

By the way, my PI tube is an 12AX7 tube. You should try it. It really sharpens and fattens the tone on low volume. Can't comment on high volume though.

I will send some new clips when I have recorded and mixed them.


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 10:14 am 
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Gertjan2411 wrote:
Regarding the self-isolating project. Send me a DM if you need some advice. My project has turned out quite well tbh. My neighbors stopped complaining, so mission accomplished!


Will do!

To keep this thread about the Triwatt:

Gertjan2411 wrote:
By the way, my PI tube is an 12AX7 tube. You should try it. It really sharpens and fattens the tone on low volume. Can't comment on high volume though.


Curious what brand and model of tubes you're using for the whole amp?

Also, did you leave C6 at 22nF, as you mentioned in an earlier post?

I was able to retrieve my Triwatt from my friend's house, finally had a little time to play on it last night. My bias circuit is a little on the cold side, even when maxed out. So my first order of business is to get that resolved. Then I might do a little tube rolling, and I'm also considering increasing C6 a bit.


Gertjan2411 wrote:
I will send some new clips when I have recorded and mixed them.


Any more delicious clips for us to consume? :)


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:25 am 
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The tubes I use are as follows:
V1 t/m V4: Tung Sol 12AX7
PT: JJ 6V6 matched

I used a Jan Philips 12AT7WC as my PI but switched that for the Tung Sol 12AX7 to give the amp a little more bite and saturation at low (bedroomish) level.


Regarding C6. I did indeed switch that to a 22n which sounded good on its own, but it sounded a bit muddy in the mix. I then swapped back and forth between several values and eventually settled with a value in between the original value (1n) and suggested 22n, being 10nf.

I found that that gives me enough bass without it being muddy. Also, with that value I can keep my bass control at noon and use that to increase or decrease the bass if I would like.

I am still in the process of recording and getting to know my DAW but you will find a short clip as an attachment.


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 10:59 am 
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Gertjan, I just ordered the Triwatt kit and had questions about your tubes. Are they the current production tung sols? Also have you tried any others? I'll have to make a tube order anyway for whatever power tubes I'll choose, so I could throw some pres on order too. I've got a bunch of the sovtek long plates and a handful of others. I've got three new TS as well but they're tied up in my 18 watt and they're DEFINITELY not coming out of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 4:08 pm 
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Yes, I am running the current production TS 12AX7s since that was what Stephen suggested.
Haven't tried others though so please post your findings and I might be doing some tube rolling myself! :D


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:43 am 
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Hi guys,

As promised, another sound clip.
This time I did another brick in the wall part 1.
Don't mind the vocals tho, this is about the guitar and the wonderful amp.
All guitar parts were done by me using my buddy: The Trinity Triwatt.
It is the perfect David Gilmour amp!

Opinions are more than welcome.
@Steve, perhaps you would like to use these for sales measures (aduio samples). Feel free to do so. I got all seperate files if you like.

Regards,
Gertjan


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:48 am 
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Gertjan - another solid cut! Keep up the good work!


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:40 pm 
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Gertjan these clips really showcase the amp! Great playing and thanks for sharing!

As for tubes, I am currently running a NOS 12AT7 as the PI but may swap out a couple of AX7s to hear the difference. The tone I am getting from the amp is really great so I am hesitant to change anything. No circuit mods at this point but I may try out some of the tweaks just for fun (e.g. Page, Townsend).


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:14 pm 
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Thanks you guys for the kind words. Ik will keep adding these showcase. Next up is The Thin Ice. It's got a great solo for the Triwatt + rams head. Loving the tone!

@PharmRock, swapping the PI obviously is a very easy mod. The ax7 gives it earlier break up. I use it to not having to put the amp very loud in my recording room. I can get easier to the edge of break up that way. You might want to try it out. Personally I would not recommend it in live situations when you need a loud amp since it will stay pretty dirty, unless that is what you are looking for of course.


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:01 am 
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PharmRock wrote:
As for tubes, I am currently running a NOS 12AT7 as the PI but may swap out a couple of AX7s to hear the difference. The tone I am getting from the amp is really great so I am hesitant to change anything. No circuit mods at this point but I may try out some of the tweaks just for fun (e.g. Page, Townsend).


Hey man, did you ended up doing some mods or tube rolling? I am curious to your experience.

I ended up switching to a 0.0047uf C6 cap instead of the 0.01uf I had installed. That is right between the original value (0.001nf) and the one I used for the last few months (0.01nf).

It is really sounding awesome!


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:01 pm 
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As promised (although a little later than planned*): The Thin Ice - Pink Floyd solo.
Of course I used the Triwatt for that wonderful sound.


Effects Chain: Seymour Duncan SSL-5, Effectrode PC-2A, Buffalo FX NOS BC239C Ram's head, Buffalo FX Power Booster, Vintage EHX Electric Mistress (1979).
Delay and reverb added in the mix. I also mastered this one just to showcase the studio tone you are able to get with the amp.

*Perhaps a little off topic, but the reason that it was recorded a little later than planned was because I repainted my guitar with nitrocellulose lacquer. That takes ages to dry!
Still, the result is way better than I could have hoped for. Added a picture as attachment. Just for the die hard Gilmour fans on this forum (which I know there are).


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:16 pm 
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Another excellent clip showing off the Triwatt! Your black Strat looks great, too!


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:43 pm 
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+1 on the "excellent" remark!

Roughly how long does it take you to dial in the tone before you record a song? Do you spend a lot of time twiddling the knobs to get it just right (because it certainly sounds just right)? Or do you have an intuition about how things should be set, and find you're able to get it strikingly good in short order?


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 Post subject: Re: Sound clips Triwatt
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:16 am 
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Thank you for your positive comments!

matt_garman wrote:
Roughly how long does it take you to dial in the tone before you record a song? Do you spend a lot of time twiddling the knobs to get it just right (because it certainly sounds just right)? Or do you have an intuition about how things should be set, and find you're able to get it strikingly good in short order?


It's funny that you ask me this question since I was thinking about this myself lately. Sometimes I am right on it the first take and other times I need to tweak and try some stuff out.
Generally, I do tend to use the same amp settings for all my records from the same Pink Floyd Era.
Right now, I am working on The Wall so the triwatt is set up pretty aggressively.

I must admit, it took some time to set up the mic for perfect recordings. In my experience, you just need to try it out. There should be one (or several) sweet spot(s).
I tried around 10 different positions, recorded the same riff and then tried fitting them into a certain mix.
The position in which I had to do the least amount of post processing was the right position for me.
Somepositions had harsch overtones while others sounded very mushy. It is quite tricky and shifting it 1 inch makes a huge difference.
However, once you have found the sweet spot, you are good to go!


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